Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 124

03/23/2005 08:30 AM House FISHERIES


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+= HB 192 FISHERIES BUSINESS LICENSE; BOND TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 192(FSH) Out of Committee
<Bill rescheduled from 3/21/05>
*+ HB 37 PUBLIC ACCESS TO FISHING STREAMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
<Bill rescheduled from 3/21/05>
*+ HB 174 FISHING PERMIT AND VESSEL LICENSE FEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 174(FSH) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
+ Presentation by Redfern Resources TELECONFERENCED
Regarding the Tulsequah Chief Mine
<Presentation Canceled>
HB 192-FISHERIES BUSINESS LICENSE; BOND                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:35:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  192,  "An Act  relating  to requirements  to                                                               
obtain  and maintain  a fisheries  business license;  relating to                                                               
security  required of  fish processors  and primary  fish buyers;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:35:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON moved  to adopt  the committee  substitute                                                               
for  HB  192, Version  24-GH1013\F,  Utermohle,  3/17/05, as  the                                                               
working  document.   [There  being no  objection,  Version F  was                                                               
before the committee.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:36:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK  HARLAMERT,  Juneau  Section Chief,  Tax  Division,  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Revenue (DOR), presented the  committee substitute                                                               
for HB  192 on behalf of  the governor.  He  reviewed the changes                                                               
that the  CS would make to  the original bill.   The first change                                                               
is in  Section 1, page 2,  lines 7 and  22, which he said  is "an                                                               
additional  requirement for  licensure; ...  it basically  places                                                               
local fisheries taxes among the  list of obligations that must be                                                               
paid by a processor in order  to licensed."  The second change is                                                               
that a new Section 2 has been inserted which he said:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     gives  processors a  break  during  the period  between                                                                    
     January 1 and March 31.  ... Under current law they are                                                                    
     required  to   post  security  covering   their  unpaid                                                                    
     estimated tax  for the  prior year,  which is  not paid                                                                    
     yet,  and the  new license  year.   During that  three-                                                                    
     month window  they essentially  are stuck  with posting                                                                    
     security for two years of  tax.  This [bill] allows the                                                                    
     [DOR] to  accept ... the  same security for  both years                                                                    
     during that  short period if it's  acceptable to [DOR],                                                                    
     and  that  should  provide   a  significant  cash  flow                                                                    
     benefit to processors during that tight period.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:38:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARLAMERT, in  response to  Co-Chair LeDoux,  said that  the                                                               
processors are  not required  to pay the  prior year's  tax until                                                               
March 31, therefore,  under current law the  processor would have                                                               
to  either pay  that tax  before  the due  date or  "pony up"  an                                                               
additional  year's worth  of security.   He  noted that  for this                                                               
change to apply,  the processor must be current in  its taxes and                                                               
be licensed during January through March.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARLAMERT pointed  out that the third change  to the original                                                               
bill is in Section 3, which  was previously Section 2; on page 4,                                                               
line 7, tenders  are added as bond beneficiaries.   He noted that                                                               
under  current   law,  employees,   fishermen,  and   the  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Labor and Workforce  Development can file  a claim                                                               
against the bond.   He said, "This adds tender  operators to that                                                               
list.  They are required to  get a judgment; having done so, they                                                               
can collect against the bond."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:40:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARLAMERT turned to the next  change in the bill, which is on                                                               
page 6, line 14.   The word "may" was changed  to "shall" so that                                                               
the  bill would  conform  to existing  law  and the  commissioner                                                               
would  be required  to waive  the  filing of  a performance  bond                                                               
under certain conditions.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON asked if the  bill would prevent processors                                                               
from not paying fishermen.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARLAMERT  replied  that  the  bill  wouldn't  automatically                                                               
prevent that from happening.  He noted:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Under existing law,  you actually have to  have a claim                                                                    
     paid  from the  bond  in order  to  affect the  bonding                                                                    
     requirement of  the [processor], and ...  in all cases,                                                                    
     old  and under  this  proposed law,  fishermen have  to                                                                    
     pursue a claim.   Under current law, if  they pursued a                                                                    
     claim,   it  could   impact  the   processor's  bonding                                                                    
     requirement, and under this law it will impact it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON asked  if there is a  simple procedure that                                                               
all fishermen  know to  follow if  they have not  been paid  by a                                                               
processor.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARLAMERT  replied that he  assumed that fishermen  know, but                                                               
they may not.  Where they have  to go, under current law and this                                                               
bill, he said, is to the court to obtain a judgment.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:43:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX remarked,  "I thought somebody was  going to look                                                               
into   the  constitutionality   of  simply   allowing  a   short,                                                               
administrative hearing for tendermen  and fishermen and employees                                                               
to be  able to go against  the bond without going  through a full                                                               
court hearing."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARLAMERT replied that he was not aware of that expectation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS noted  that he had filed against a  bond once and                                                               
he didn't hire an attorney but instead went to a magistrate.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX commented that it  depends on the amount a person                                                               
is  seeking; a  small claims  court  action would  be dealt  with                                                               
through a magistrate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:45:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX asked for confirmation that the bond is $10,000.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARLAMERT replied  that  the basic  bond  level is  $10,000,                                                               
which is  unchanged from prior  law.  He  noted that this  is the                                                               
highest bond in  the country for fish processors.   He continued,                                                               
"It makes  the bonding  requirements, stepping  up to  either the                                                               
$50,000  or the  $100,000 level,  more responsive  to [processor]                                                               
behavior, so  it's easier to  have the bond increased  under this                                                               
bill than it is under current law."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:46:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX closed public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMAS  moved  to  adopt   [Amendment  1],  which  read                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     p.6, line 21: delete "employee or fishermen"                                                                               
        add "employee, fishermen, or contracted raw fish                                                                        
     transporter"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     p.8, line  7: delete "employee or fishermen"                                                                               
        add "employee, fishermen, or contracted raw fish                                                                        
     transporter"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     p.8, line 11: delete "employee or fishermen"                                                                               
        add "employee, fishermen, or contracted raw fish                                                                        
     transporter"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
IAN   FISK,  Staff   to  Representative   Thomas,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature introduced [Amendment 1]  on behalf of Representative                                                               
Thomas.  He explained that  the amendment would allow "contracted                                                               
raw  fish  transporters"  to  obtain  final  judgment  against  a                                                               
processor's bond.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:48:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:48:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMAS  moved to report  CSHB 192,  Version 24-GH1013\F,                                                               
Utermohle,  3/17/05, as  amended from  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, CSHB  192(FSH) was reported from  the House Special                                                               
Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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